I am rewatching the pilot right now to see what else (if
anything) ABC cut out Saturday night besides the ear cutting
scene. They must have gotten complaints from viewers that this
scene was too gorey for the 8pm hour. But, it was
actually MULTIPLE scenes that kept flashing back and forth
during Anna's interview with Chad that got cut. Her interview
was longer in the pilot and things she said to Chad were also
cut, and so was Georgie's explanation about what the V's are and
why they're here. This whole sequence got cut from probably 5
minutes down to just 1 or 2. They removed a LOT here, but
everything else seems intact. Odd that they would cut the most
revealing part of the pilot episode in reruns!?!?!
I also just caught a significant filming error. As Georgie was
ambushing Ryan outside the glass building where Ryan works to
try and convert him back to The Resistance, a Vancouver tower
was reflecting in the glass of the building in the background.
This tower looks like the Seattle Space Needle. Yet, this is
supposed to be NYC, where no circular observation towers like
this exist. Major OOPS !!
just rewatched the ABC V finale again. They made a huge mistake at
the end. It was nighttime on the MS when Anna unleashed the Red Sky.
Suddenly, it was daytime down below. And in LA, too, which is 3
hours behind us and thus would have been even further still in
nighttime. Somebody F-ed up! (Unless the Red Sky somehow makes it
daylight?!?!? Like a nuke?)
Anna uses a Kindle to take over the world! And it needs a
battery charge! See link
In "V" The
Mini-Series (The Original), as the Visitor Mother Ship
approaches Los Angeles, we see Polly and Robin hug their mother.
As the shot goes to David looking up we see them still hugging
in the back ground, the next shot is again from behind and we
see the daughters again reach for their mother.
oops is from the original miniseries. Donovan sneaks back on
board the mother ship (in a Visitor uniform) and is searching for
clues to their secret motives. He is in full uniform with
Visitor sidearm. When he enters the room where he finds the
tanks full of water, he no longer has the sidearm. Then,
once again, when he hooks up with Martin, he has the weapon again!
In "V" The Mini-Series
(Original), Donovan stows away onboard a Visitor shuttle craft
to do some detective work about what the Visitors are really up
to. As he boards the shuttle craft and arrives on the mother
ship, Donovan has a Visitor sidearm and holster.
Donovan is seen later at the
large holding tanks that are used for storing the water the
Visitors are taking from the Earth and the sidearm and holster
Later, Martin finds Donovan and
finally reveals that the Visitors are also storing humans and
the sidearm and holster reappear.
# Diana should have died when she got out of the
shuttle after it crashed. Since this takes place
immediately after the red dust was dropped, it should
still be everywhere.
# When Diana threatens to kill Nathan Bates, Bates
shows her his wrist to demonstrate a device that sends
a frequency to explosives surrounding enough red dust
to destroy every Visitor on Earth. It's large and
bulky and very noticeable, but it doesn't appear to be
on his wrist in future episodes (or even the rest of
# There is never any real explanation given as to why
Donovan and Tyler are attacked by the cops at the
tracking station. They appear to have just shown up
for target practice...
# The Police Officers were sent by Nathan's
Organization because Nathan claimed that Tyler was "a
# When Mike leads the resistance fighters to the
Mothership, he is seen wearing orange work gloves;
once in the ship, his gloves are now a dirty tan when
he attacks the security guard, yet go back to orange
when they are in the mothership's control room.
# In the pilot, it was stated that their "motherships"
only travel at near-light speed, and that it took
something like five years to get to Earth from their
star system. Yet the Triax, which was guarding star
routes gets to Earth very quickly. It just happened to
be guarding routes very near Earth?
20. The Wildcats
# At the end of the episode Lydia comments on how pale
Marta looks, but since Marta is a Visitor she is
wearing fake human skin.
24. The Return
# During the big fight scene Lt. James falls into
(through) one of the consoles busting up 2 surfaces but
after he gets up the surfaces are intact again.
watched the V DVD Final Battle and noticed a mistake: When they do
Robin's laparoscopy to look into her abdomen at the pregnancy the
guy doing the anaesthetic, is his name Robert ? Well he holds the
face mask giving the anaesthetic on upside down!!!
is something that I have noticed in my many years of re-watching
the series: I believe it is in Episode 1, The Final Batal, when
Brian shoots Dan Pascal in front of the first hideout for the
"rebels". When Brian shoots him with the laser gun,
there is no mark left on Pascal's shirt. The shot did not even
penetrate the shirt. -
is a V blooper which I recently discovered in the "V"
Mini-series. This blooper occurred during the scene where John is
announcing his cure for cancer at the Medical Center. The
Resistance Fighters manage to get through security using fake
passes and disguises. Their plan is to kill the guards, take
control of the room, and rip John's face off on national
television, before making a quick escape. As the Resistance
Fighters get into position and prepare for their attack, you can
see that there are many Vistor security guards (with gold helmets)
posted all around the room, and on the steps leading to the upper
level where John will be. The Visitor security guards on the steps
are standing "at attention", just as a US Army soldier
might stand when he is called to attention. They are all standing
up straight, facing forward, arms at their sides, their shoulders
back, chests out, and all that kind of stuff. They are carrying
laser weapons, but the weapons are holstered and have not
John comes out and begins to speak about the cure for cancer.
Suddenly, one member of the Resistance yells "Now!" and
all hell breaks loose!! You can see many of the guards being shot
and killed, as the civilians all run for cover. There's all kinds
of gunfire and laser blasts, and bodies dropping everywhere. Now
here's where the blooper comes in. The camera then switches to a
shot of a Resistance Fighter running down the stairs and kicking
one of the security guards. Right before the guard gets kicked,
you can see that he is still standing "at attention"
just as he was before the attack began. He has not even pulled out
his weapon, and he seems to have no clue that anything is going on
in the room. You can also see another guard standing "at
attention" on the steps. That guard also seems to be
completely clueless, and has not even pulled out his weapon.
Logically, at this point, these guards should have their weapons
drawn, and should be shooting at the Resitance Fighters, running
for cover, or trying to get John or Diana to a safe location. But
instead, they are just standing there perfectly still, not doing
anything. So, there was either some kind of blunder in the
filming, editing, or directing of the scenes, or the V Security
Guards are just REAL morons.
found by Niklas
always figured they were to hide their true eyes just as the shock
troopers visors. This makes the visitors not need to wear their
fake human eyes at all times...just a thought.
found by Brittany
is one to check out for all people who have easy access to the
original mini series: When Daniel Bernstein is given a ring to
honor his loyalty by Brian, Brian reaches to shake his hand.
Strangely enough, after he pulls his hand away, there is another
shot of the two still shaking hands.
found by Jon
visitors say when they arrive that they come from Sirius. Sirius
however is one of the brightest stars in our galaxy, it is way up
on the top end of the main sequence. The visitor home planet (I
won't go into astrophysics here) will be roughly the same size and
in a closer orbit to their sun, which will mean that it is also
hotter, and will have lost most of its water to space, (accounting
for their wanting ours). But it also means that the lizard's eyes
would have evolved to cope with the brightness of their own sun,
so why the hell are they wearing sunglasses in the 'dim as a naffy
candle' light of Earth, they should be wearing vision enhancers!
And before you say that perhaps the sunglasses were actually
vision enhancers, if they were, they would have blinded Mike
Donavan when he put them on to do his little covert operation
stunt on the mother ship. On the other hand, perhaps this was why
they were such lousy shots!
found by Beth & Sarah
don't remember the name of the episode, but it's the one where
Diana and Lydia are having a fight to the death with these poles
with a weighted sort of metal softball at one end, and a blade at
the other. During the fight, Diana's blade on her pole
wiggles. It's made of rubber or plastic!
Diana's shuttle escapes the mothership, a close inspection of the
Visitor logo on the shuttle shows that this is a mirror image of
the stock footage -- the logo is backwards.
at Diana's shuttle from above many times and misses, but the
laser bolts never impact the ground
smoke is pouring out of Diana's shuttle after she's hit, but
the air is clear after the crash, then when we cut back to
Diana running away from the crashed shuttle, the smoke is back
Diana limps away
from the crashed shuttle. Camera zooms in on Donovan running. He
begins to take a flying leap. Camera cuts to high shot of Diana
limping again. Here comes Donovan running in from the left, then
takes another flying leap and tackles Diana.
Diana is being
walked from a heavily guarded van to the courthouse wearing a
mask... and nothing but. Wouldn't you want handcuffs and
leg-chains on such a dangerous war criminal?
Why would Donovan
have to "steal" a helicopter? The pilot, Donovan, and
Martin all work for KDHB. The pilot was obviously right there.
What happened to, "Hey, Bob, give me a lift! I'm following
Nathan Bates tells
Diana about the antidote, and says, "That's how Visitors like
Martin and Willie can exist outside." To the best of my
knowledge, Diana has never met Willie (slim chance), and Bates has
never met either one of them. Unless, of course, Martin and Willie
have become celebrities now, in which case, why did the reporter
spend so much time interviewing Elias and ignore Willie?
The guy who picks
up Diana by the side of the road sees she's wearing goggles, sees
her uniform, and (presumably) hears her alien "accent",
but has no idea why her skin is cold, or why she's about to devour
him. What rock has he been hiding under for the past 2 years?
24 hours later,
Donovan is still flying around in a stolen helicopter.
Who owns the
Southwest Tracking Station? So many people (Donovan, Tyler,
and Diana) all get into a facility filled with millions of dollars
worth of computer and satellite equipment which is all powered up
and running unattended, unguarded and unlocked.
re-forms as Diana intends to destroy Earth with a high-powered
weapon from her home planet.
is packed with customers, all getting bombed. Yet, when somebody
knocks (why knock on the door of a public restaurant
anyway?), Elias pulls out a gun and opens it a crack to see
who's coming. Did he do this with all these customers?
Tyler and Donovan
drive through an alley during the "War of the Worlds"
attack. They see a man run out of a building and get shot. They
get so mad, they turn the car around and shoot 3 troopers, and run
a fourth over. They then drive away without even checking to see
if the poor human is alive or dead.
Nathan Bates tells
Diana if his pulse stops, the explosives throughout the facility
will explode, releasing the red dust, and he and the human race
will "yawn and clean up the mess". Wouldn't he be part
of the mess, considering he's in the facility?
Elias tells Robert
that nobody besides he and Willie know of the basement under Club
Creole, and says, "I put that stairway in myself". What
does a small-time street punk know about installing a hidden door
that slides open and closed automatically at the push of
a hidden switch? By the way, the basement of the Club Creole
is the same set as the resistance base from The Final Battle.
Notice the spiral staircase?
Soon after, they
hear screaming, and five shock troopers are corralling customers
into the corner. Not only does Elias try to handle all five of
them (he takes down one, then hides), but when they turn their
back to shoot at Elias, all 30-40 people are still cringing and
crying. It's a proven fact that alcohol makes you feel more brave
(and/or stupid), so didn't anybody ever hear of "strength in
numbers"?. Of course, when Tyler and Donovan come
running in with guns drawn (how did they know?) and knock one
trooper down, one guy picks up the rifle and smiles and cheers
Elias on. I'd knock him out just for the heck of it.
Diana tells Lydia
she ordered the Triax to leave orbit around the home planet and
come to Earth. Shortly after, Diana obliterates one of Jupiter's
moons as an example of the Triax's power. After she gets dressed
for the signing of the peace treaty, Diana tells Lydia the Triax
will enter Earth's orbit in 3 hours. If it takes 3 hours to get
from Jupiter to Earth, that means the Triax is traveling at a
speed of 161,210,615.4 mph. At this speed, that means in
order to travel the 51 trillion miles (8.7ly) from Sirius to
Earth, Diana had to have requested the Triax in
September 1948 (36.2 years). Even if the Visitors have
faster-than-light technology (and they probably do), they wouldn't
have put it on a weapon that is designed to stay in orbit around
the home planet.
Kenneth (not Johnson): I just watched 'Liberation Day' &
'Dreadnaught' this (Monday, 07/08/02) MORNING. I just thought I
should point out that @ no time is it actually stated, by either
Lydia or Diana, that the Particle Beam Triax is "in orbit of
the MOTHER PLANET" and/or "home world."
What WAS said, by Lydia, is that the Triax must "remain in
'orbit' to protect the space lanes." Followed by Diana's
(sarcastic) reply: "Victory, dear Lydia, cuts through an
awful lot of red tape."
Also, Diana never states that she "ordered" the Triax
into Earth's system. She DOSE say that she "requested that
the Particle Beam Triax be DEPLOYED here at once."
I understand that you probably didn't personally add this
particular 'blooper' but I thought, in the interest of 'V'
accuracy, the misconception should be cleared up.
There are other such inaccuracies that other fans have submitted
-- nitpicked -- to you but I felt this one was the most
Lydia orders the
weapons officer to fire torpedoes at the captured mothership and
destroy it, but he claims he can't, due to the fact that the Triax
is in their way. Ok, why not have the Triax shoot at the
Elizabeth, etc are leaving the ship before Robert rams the Triax,
the film footage is reversed again
When the ship
collides with the Triax, everyone on the shuttle has to shield
their eyes from the brightness of the explosion. Why? They're
flying away from the explosion, so the flash would be behind them.
Tyler and Donovan
get captured and placed in a Visitor work camp guarded by hungry
"crivits". This episode was not shown in the original
first-run of the series because of its violent content.
Network broadcast is the same as episode #4
amazing Tyler and Kyle get locked in the same
"hotbox" for hours, but don't continue the subject of
what Kyle's relationship is to Nathan. They start talking about it
before they get locked up, then in the next episode when they meet
again, they act like they've never met and start the same topic
brings many police officers to the raid at Club Creole, but
apparently posted nobody in the back alley. Elizabeth and Julie
Donovan and Tyler
steal a Visitor fighter in full view of many soldiers. They give
chase, and take aim, but don't shoot. Only after the fastest
liftoff in "V" history do they start firing.
Speaking of the
fighter, there's several problems here in what I'd like to call
the cheapest and most-rushed ending in V history. First (obvious
to any true fan), Donovan's fighter and the one chasing him are
flying over the same ground Donovan and Diana did in the first
episode. Second, somehow Donovan & Tyler get behind the
Visitor fighter and destroy him. When and how did this happen?
Even now, I watch the episode and I still get confused as to who
is in which fighter. Third, we know these fighters have front and
rear laser cannons (from the first movie), so instead of
displaying the mid-air gymnastics that we didn't get to see
anyway, why doesn't Tyler turn around and start shooting at
the fighter that's chasing them? He's too busy trying not to
#4: "The Deception"
Diana (with the
help of Sean), drugs Donovan and tries to trick him into believing
the war is over so he’ll reveal secrets about the Resistance.
pilot/messenger that Kyle finds while he's taking Robin home
mumbles, "Club Creole...main street... take the pouch to the
fireman". Yet, in Episode #2, Tyler tells Donovan that
Elias's new club is on Fourth Street.
While Kyle is in
the Club Creole awaiting Donovan's return, Willie tells him,
"We will open soon. I must get ready." Yet, just a few
minutes ago, we saw a woman eating at a table outside.
somebody is sneaking up on him, he grabs a knife in his one hand,
and he wipes his mouth on his napkin with the other hand. Why? He
didn't want to kill someone with food on his mouth?
Diana tells Lydia
she used 200c.c. of medication on Donovan causing him to stay
in bed. Isn't "cubic-centimeters" an Earth
to be Julie) is feeding Donovan pastries, which are actually mice.
To Donovan, they look like pastries. Amazingly enough, the
"pastries" don't run off the plate and get away. Then,
when Donovan picks one up, he doesn't feel the cream puff
trying to get away.
Donovan spent 2
days locked in one holographic room. He must have a good bladder.
Either that, or he used a holographic toilet in the holographic
If Julie knew that
Elizabeth would be riding a motorcycle to the rendezvous point,
don't you think she'd tell Elizabeth it wouldn't be ladylike
to wear a skirt?
#5: "The Sanction"
martial-artist trains Sean Donovan how to kill his father.
to sneak into the Visitor Embassy, Donovan bribes the guard with a
mouse. The guard bites the mouse in half, but there's no blood.
Robin arrives at
the Club Creole, but finds the gate shut and padlocked. Yet there
are people out front eating...
Later, when the
gate is open, and the place is open for business, Robin isn't
waiting there. She's going to see a movie. I guess she's not THAT
eager to find her daughter...
Klaus uses a
laser-whip to flatten Donovan's tires. Sparks fly out of the tire,
but then the whip hits him in the leg and he feels nothing.
How does a tough
guy like Tyler get knocked out with one punch from a 14 year old
And after that, how
did Sean find his way back to the Embassy on foot when he really
had no idea where he was?
#6: "Visitor's Choice"
finds out about a new process the Visitors are using to prepare
human meat, and attempt to shut it down.
that Tyler places in the street to destroy the limousine has
a timer attached to it, but yet he's using a remote control to
Two police cars
arrive on the scene within one minute of the explosion
("hah") and arrest the guy whose car
"stalled", but ignore the black and gold sports car
speeding away from the explosion itself right up the street (a bit
like Star Trek's "Red Shirt Disease", isn't it?)
While spying on the
food processing plant, Julie is identifying the Visitors. She
calls one "General Maxwell Larson" and another
"Mary Kreuger". Since when do the lizards have first and
processing plant, hanging on the wall next to the dining table is
a large tapestry with the Visitor logo on it. It's backwards.
outside the building where Kyle is being
"instructed" by Mr. Chiang. She uses her powers
to psychically smash all of the light bulbs in the room,
causing a distraction and allowing Kyle to escape, yet the
brightness level of the room never changes.
When everyone is
placing their explosives, they push one button to activate the
timer. As we see on Donovan's timer, it's pre-set to 12:00 minutes
and begins counting down from there. If the bombs are set to
detonate exactly 12 minutes from activation, why do they all
explode at the same time? Unless, of course, they were all
activated at exactly the same time, which they weren’t.
#7: "The Overlord"
A biker gang takes
control of a small mining town in order to sell cobalt to the
Visitors for powering their weapons.
I'm sure this
has happened before in previous episodes, and I'll keep my eye out
for it from now on: "The Freedom Network" honors a man
who helped rescue children from a Visitor youth camp in Kansas
City, Missouri. Kansas City in an area where the temperature
drops below freezing often, allowing the Red Dust to
regenerate. How can Visitors survive there?
the guard with the line "Take it from me... I know what men
want." Her voice was normal volume, if not lower, but yet
Kyle heard her say it from inside the house across the street.
#8: "The Dissident"
Diana places a
force field wall around Los Angeles to prevent unauthorized
entering or leaving of the city.
Diana and crew
monitor the progress of a munitions truck driving along the road,
heading towards her new "force field wall". The views
are from several different angles, including straight
ahead, which means that the camera would be in the road, or above
The basement of
Science Frontiers looks almost exactly like the basement of the
Visitor Embassy as seen in "The Sanction"
Julie uses security
cameras to spy on Nathan while he enters his personal code
into the computer. When Julie selects the room she wants to
"spy" on, three pictures come up on three
monitors: #1 is in front of Bates to his left, #2 is over
Bates' left shoulder, and #3 is in front of Bates to his
right, below desk level. There are a slew of buggers in
She looks at the
computer again, and now controls for individual cameras appear:
"Pan", "Zoom", "Tilt" for each
camera. This was silly even for '80s sci-fi television. There's no
"in", "out", "left", etc. The
computer is not psychic, so how does it know what the user wants
She looks back up
to the monitors. She hasn't commanded the cameras to move, but yet
the camera angles changed. Now #1 appears to be from the
ceiling to Bates' left, and #3 is a close up of Bates still from
his right side, but now it appears to be up higher.
When Galen, the
Visitor technician, stands up, camera #1 pans up and #3 zooms
out to follow his movement.
Julie then tells
Camera #1 to "Zoom" (see point "a" above), but
the middle monitor (#2) is the one that zooms in
The whole time
Julie is watching the middle monitor, the camera does not
remain steady, but wiggles as if it's a handheld camera.
Julie tells #1
to "Pan", and the camera moves up and to the right on a
rather unsteady course, and tries to auto-focus on the
monitor. See "(a) Psychic Camera"
After Nathan enters
his ingenious four-letter random password of "KYLE" and
opens the gateway through the wall, he pushes a button to speak to
Mr. Chiang, who as we see is pointing a gun at the head of another
poor guy who must have ticked off Nathan, forcing him to be the
guinea pig and drive through the barrier. We can see and hear
Chiang perfectly, so there must be a cameraman and a soundman at
the scene with a boom mike. If there is, then maybe there's
another cameraman stationed on a mountainside that follows the car
as it passes through the gateway.
Finally, did you
notice that the "gateway" only accommodates one
lane of the road?
When Donovan talks
to Elias over the ham radio, Donovan uses the call sign
"Wilderness" and Julie uses "Shiloh". But
after the conversation, Elias tries to raise Kyle over the same
radio and says "Kyle Bates? Come in, Bates!" Any kid can
pick up all these transmissions with a cheap police scanner
from your local Radio Shack, so why are they surprised when
Visitors find them?
Julie tries to
crack Bates' code by sticking what resembles an old telephone
keypad on the computer. Without wiring it to the computer, what
good would that do?
When Galen catches
Julie, she's rescued by Willie, who causes a distraction. This
room is ultra-high top-secret priority security clearance only. At
least Julie works there, so she can sneak in. How did
Willie even get into the building?
#9: "A Reflection in Terror"
Diana creates a
clone of Elizabeth, and the resistance rescues foster kids for
a Jeep coming down the road and hear "Attention all
patrol vehicles: Be on the lookout for a red van… suspected
resistance". A red van would be a lot easier to see
from the sky, so why not use skyfighters to look for it? Did
Donovan and Tyler steal them all?
Willie is playing
the piano and singing -- badly. Not only is the music bad, so is
the lip-synching. He's not even close.
During the battle
of national anthems in the Club Creole, all humans stand
except for one man. He's taking pictures with a spy camera. Not
only doesn't anybody notice this, but of the many Visitors in the
place, none recognize the three most wanted humans in L.A.?
For a son who's
been cut off by his rich father, Kyle has a lot of money for
someone who has no job. He keeps buying new pickup
trucks every time one breaks down while Ham keeps fixing up the
same old red van, and now he has a new house with a little lake
next to it.
The tracker that
Diana chooses to find the Elizabeth clone must have been the last
in line when human skins were being given out. He's balding, has a
problem with his right eyelid, and has a face that resembles the
surface of the moon.
Elizabeth-clone is on the rampage in town, a security camera
outside a building captures her face. The camera looks remarkably
like the camera from the previous episode.
Nathan Bates is
examining pictures supposedly taken from the spy-camera in the
Club Creole. All the pictures are shot from different angles, and
are focused and centered perfectly. Hardly likely to be taken from
a tiny camera by a man sitting at a table while everyone is
standing in front of him.
Camera" is at it again. While Bates and Chiang are spying on
Julie, the camera zooms in on her face, but neither of them is
touching the controls.
(Only those 18
years of age or older can read this blooper) A single guy (Kyle)
is in the shower, and he sees his girlfriend (Elizabeth-clone)
enter the bathroom. He says, "Hang on, I'll be out in a
minute!" and smiles. Wouldn't "Hey, what are you doing
in here?" or "Why don't you join me?" be a more
likely thing to say? I think I'm starting to take this stuff way
gets shot at point-blank range with a laser pistol and lives for a
few seconds. Seconds later, Kyle shoots the tracker, and not only
does he die right away, but there's no burn mark on his uniform
where he got shot.